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ARTICLE 78
![]() TOWN OF
KINDER DESIGN CODE ARCHITECT KATE JOHNS
ARCHITECT ALVIN KNOLL PLANNING CONSULTANT NORMAN MINTZ
PRESERVATION ARCHITECT MARILYN
KAPLAN
TOWN OF KINDERHOOK DESIGN CODE In the COMMENTS to the SDEIS ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS (copied from the Town Code below) it is demonstrated that Widewaters is not conforming to the Town Code in several ways. This is based on conceptual drawings of Widewaters Commons dated October 15, 2003. The Widewaters drawings of building 4/4A show a big box structure with a flat roof. THE TOWN OF KINDERHOOKBUILDING DESIGN AND FORM CODE Highlighted in red is where KNGG sees Widewaters breaking the code. from The Town of Kinderhook Code Book Page 81-79 H Building Design and Form
A Traditional architecture, which identifies a special company by building design features, is prohibited.B Structures shall be compatible with traditional pre-1940 structures in the area in architecture, design, massing, materials and details.C Architectural design shall be in keeping with the small-town architectural character of the Town. Avoid large expanses of undifferentiated facades and long plain wall sections. A façade break shall be required every 80 feet of façade including, but not limited to building wall offsets, projections, recesses, and changes in floor level in order to relieve the visual effect of a simple, long wall. Similarly, roofline offsets shall be provided in order to relieve the effect of a single, long roof. For larger buildings, the scale and form of new construction, additions and major alterations shall mimic that of traditional barns, houses and structures.D Use detailing including, but not limited to, fenestration, entrance treatments such as lintels, pilasters, columns, porticoes, porches, railings, balustrades, and overhangs, dormers, belvederes, masonry chimneys, cupolas and clock towers. Blank walls are not permitted.E Hip roofs (pitches 4/12 to 9/12), gable roofs (pitches 8/12 to 14/12) and gambrel roofs (upper pitch: (upper pitch: 5/12 to 8/12; lower pitch: 18/12 to 20/12) are acceptable. Mansard roofs, flat roofs, and shed roofs (except on secondary roofs where pitch should be 4/12 to 14/12) are not permitted.F Not applicable G Not applicable H Balance windows and doors so they are generally symmetric in their placement on building facades. In addition: Glazing of no less than 12% and no more than 35% on the foremost, front facing façade. For commercial use, glass areas at the ground floor should be greater than those at upper floors. Except at first floor levels of commercial use, windows shall be vertical in proportion, and have a ratio of width to height between 1:2 and 1:5 and be small paned windows divided by muntins. For commercial uses, windows wider than 3 feet are not acceptable except on entry levels, where a maximum width of 6 feet is acceptable. For large windows, muntins should be used to break the expanse of glass into smaller panes. "Eyebrow" windows of a 1-1/2:1 to 3:1 ratio range are acceptable below roof eaves. Sliding glass doors should not be permitted on building facades.
ARCHITECTURE
EVALUATIONS
Kate Johns,
AIA
252 Dorland Road Old Chatham, New York 12136
Zoning Board of Appeals - P.O. Box P - Niverville, New York 12130 Re: Widewaters Commons – Area Variance Application Dear Zoning Board of Appeals Members:
EXPERIENCE
Principle and owner of an architecture firm specializing in historic preservation and contextual new construction and site design.
Consulting for the New York Landmarks Conservancy, the New York State Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation, the Temporary State Commission on the Restoration of the Capitol, and others.
Project Manager for major reconstruction and exterior restoration projects in the city of New York. Major clients included, NYC Department of Parks and Recreation, Silverstein Properties, Inc., Schubert Theaters, NY Public Library.
Staff Architect for preservation projects, including residences, house museums and buildings, in Vieux Carre and Garden District historic districts of New Orleans.
Staff Architect for commercial office space layout and design. Major clients included, IBM and Avon. EDUCATION
Bachelor of Architecture 1977
Bachelor of Fine Arts Candidate 1972-1973 RELATED EDUCATION
ARCHITECTURAL REGISTRATION State of Louisiana, Licensed 1981 State of New York, Licensed 1986 Commonwealth of Massachusetts, Licensed 1995 State of Virginia, Licensed 1997 State of New Jersey, Licensed 1999 BOARD MEMBERSHIPS
ALVIN D. KNOLL Architect - Builder – Developer 106 McCagg Road Valatie, NY 12184 - 518.392.2659 Fax 518.392.9732 November 16, 2003 Town of Kinderhook Zoning Board of Appeals P O Box P, Niverville, NY 12130 This letter and attached plans is in response to the letter to the Board from Robert Alessi of LeBoeuf et, al. With attached affidavits from Marco Marzocchi and Constance Grace RA, dated November 6, 2003. Contrary to the applicant’s denial, the elevations submitted with their application are the result of self-created hardship. It is the result of the building’s very large footprint, 62,192 square feet and the almost square Hannaford store. Consequently, the elevations provided by the applicant with a gabled roof at an 8/12 pitch creates the outlandish condition they present in an effort to avoid the Town code. They argue that "there is no architectural alternative to a flat roof design…for building 4 and 4A." They are mistaken; there is an architectural alternative to a flat roof by utilizing the hip roof allowed by the code at a 4/12 pitch. I have drawn a sketch of the front elevation and roof plan based on the applicant’s buildings footprint with minor modification at the Hannaford building entrance to create an elevation of symmetrical classic design consistent with the Town code requirements. If this pitched roof is somewhat more costly than a flat roof; it is not in the same $1,500,000 range as the 8/12-pitch roof shown by the applicant. However, the Town code should be followed, additional cost to the applicant should not be a consideration. The variance sought by the applicant in this matter should be denied. Very truly yours, Alvin D. Knoll Enclosure NORMAN MINTZ P. O. Box 371 – Court Lane Claverack, N. Y. 12531 October 31, 2003 Mr. Ed Simonsen, Chairman Kinderhook Town Planning Board Niverville NY 12130 Dear Mr. Simonsen and Members of the Planning Board: I am writing this letter of concern at the request of Kinderhook Neighbors for Good Growth. As a resident of the nearby Hamlet of Claverack, I have been following the controversy surrounding the construction of Widewaters Commons with interest. As one who is professionally involved in commercial revitalization issues, I feel especially qualified to express my opinion. There are numerous issues involved in this case, however I would like to limit my comments to two major concerns – those are the size of the development and its location. As co-author of the book Cities back from the Edge: New Life for Downtown (John Wiley & Sons) I had the opportunity to travel throughout the United States and observe case studies similar to the one now taking place in Kinderhook. The growth of "big box" retailing is happening all too often. This is unfortunate, as the size of these projects is often out of scale to their surroundings. In the case of Kinderhook, the size of the project overwhelms the scenic nature of the site. This important location is not like the other commercial strips, where the size and location of the development does not matter. In this case it matters very much. An endless sea of parking would destroy the rare and beautiful view of the Catskills. Route 9 would become like any other commercial area—hardly an image that is befitting the special quality of Kinderhook. The huge size of these types of projects can also play havoc with the economy of the traditional business districts. Pedestrian traffic often dwindles, shops close and a feeling of abandonment takes hold. Many downtowns never recover. Although I am not suggesting this could happen to the commercial center of Kinderhook or the Main Street of Valatie, this possibility should be of great concern to everyone in the community. Development is fine, but it is up to you to make sure that your decisions are truly responsible, especially so for future generations. The fact is that this pristine location, once built upon will be gone forever. It is imperative that the Planning Board follows the regulations of the new Town Code and does not grant variances to Widewaters. Allowing this corporation to not follow adopted procedures will set a dangerous precedent that could drastically alter what makes Kinderhook so special. Please do all you can to ensure that Kinderhook stays that way. Norman Mintz MARILYN KAPLAN, Preservation Architect 51 Round Lake Road Valatie, New York 12184 518-766-2459 fax 518-766-2451 November 2, 2003 Ed Simonsen, Chair Kinderhook Town Planning Board, PO Box P, Niverville, NY 12130 RE: Comments, Proposed Widewaters, 10/2/03 and 9/11/03 drawings Dear Members of the Planning Board, I write to provide comments on the proposed drawings noted above for the Widewaters development, which I believe to have serious flaws. First, the proposed project lacks consistent quality design at all building elevations, likely a function of the developer’s financial decision to minimize the efforts of the architect. While two pages of photographs of small details such as brackets or windows are provided, these inclusions in the submission obscure the inadequate attention paid to mitigating the scale of the new construction and the use of low cost construction materials at the proposed side and rear elevations. Second, the developer appears not to have included a landscape architect in this aspect of the project development. This is an unfortunate omission from the design team, since in the hands of a good landscape architect the overall appearance of the site and buildings could be substantially improved. The proposed planting scheme was likely developed by the site engineer or an architect with commercial building experience but little experience with sensitive treatment of the landscape in an difficult project such as this where the town’s scale and character is at jeopardy. Specific comments related to these items follows: A. LANDSCAPE TREATMENT
B. BUILDING FACADES Problems with the proposed architectural treatment of the building facades are as follows:
I thank you for your consideration, and truly appreciate your ongoing efforts on this project. Sincerely, Marilyn E. Kaplan, Architect * * * | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||